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daves2 |
Are all games compatable with Windows 7.0? |
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Just wondering?
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rocket |
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I have Basketball and Baseball running fine, except that the basketball game gones on spells where it reverts to the basketball home screen a lot and I assume
something is running in the background, but I cannot figure out what. It is a quick click to get back to the game, so it is not a major problem, but it does
detract from the flow when it is doing that. When it is not doing that, the flow is very fast and much more fun. The baseball game has not had any glitches
at all and works great. For some reason, I cannot get football to work, but Dave is working with me to find a solution. I will say the hard drive with
Windows 7 seems to be doing something all the time and I noticed that it updates virus protection in real time, so that may be part of the problem. But what
do you do? I like real time virus protection.
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Dad Is that Ms Defanti |
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Last Edited By: Dad Is that Ms Defanti 11/11/09 08:30 PM.
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DMB87 |
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I've been told that my 5 1/2 year old laptop's HDD is slowly dying. I've backed up most of what I need, but more is necessary. Anyway, I'm
ready to customize a new laptop, but I'm curious about Windows 7.
I'm told that I really should go with Windows 7 Home Edition (64-bit), and wondered if this the version everyone here is using or is it the (32-bit) version? I'm told that only Windows 7 Pro version can give you the XP compatibility mode, is that correct? and do we even need this? Thanks for any advice. |
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VeryCurious |
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DMB87 - I'll give you my opinion, doesn't mean it's right, just my opinion. If I'm building a computer and can choose any OS, I'd stick with XP if my RAM needs remain under 4GB. XP is faster and more software/hardware compatible than any 32 bit Windows OS. Admin rights are a total PITA. IT people love the concept. They prevent you from using your computer. Understandable for businesses where there are a lot of computers to maintain, but for the home user - total nonsense. If my RAM needs exceed 4GB, and eventually everyone's will, then I'd go 64 bit. Personally I'd go Windows 7 Pro, but I'm fussy. 64 bit Home Premium has a 16 GB limit - probably more than enough. 64 bit Pro has a 192 GB limit. Might as well take the plunge if you're going 64 bit. If this is your first experience with a 64 bit OS, go into it with your eyes open. Make sure you have device drivers for all your hardware and be prepared to fork over coin for new utilities, anti-virus software, etc. Not everything that was designed to run on a 32 bit OS will run on a 64 bit OS. Don't buy the Vista or Windows 7 compatibility claim without asking the second question too "is it 64 bit compatible?" Regarding Windows XP compatibility mode - that's another GREAT question. Microsoft makes the following claim Windows 7 has "complete Windows XP compatibility, or almost 100 percent compatibility with all currently running Windows applications." I'll believe that when I see it. I still run Dave's games in Windows 98 compatibility mode. It's the only way I can get them to run without screen refresh problems. So a fair question here - will Dave's games run under 64-bit Windows 7 without the herky jerky stop and start one sees in any mode other than Windows 98 compatibility mode. So there ya have it ... my opinion |
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DMB87 |
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Thanks Curious,
I appreciate your comments. I'm actually close to just having my current laptop repaired for a few hundred dollars and just continue to work with XP. I'm excited about putting together a great laptop with some cool features, but I worry that I'll just find myself frustrated by the lack of 64-bit software support. I do plan to contact Dave and Company this week to ask about 64-bit compatability without the "herky jerky" stuff!!! I do understnad that the XP mode with Windows 7 Pro is actually a separate install and isn't the most intuitive install, but again that came from another game Forum and was an opinion well. So hopefully my laptop holds out long enough for me to gather additional information, but your information was outstanding and again much appreciated. Mike |
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rocket |
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I have Windows 7 64-bit and we got everything running great. All three are playing smooth and very fast. Basketball is lightning fast if you do not spend time
pondering what to do and just play the game at the speed of a real game.
I forgot to add that I am not playing in any compatibility mode - straight up Windows 7 mode. |
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VeryCurious |
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Good to hear rocket - can you fill us in a little what you did in the last 5 days to go from post 1 to post 6. I believe most problems getting software to
run properly is operator and system induced ... files installed in the wrong folders, corrupt data files, unnecessary services running in the background,
out-of-date drivers, etc. Was there something specific here that we can all learn from that improved your situation? Thanks.
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rocket |
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VeryCurious,
As to Basketball, I really did nothing other than play the game and it started running smoothly and without any kick back to the main screen. I think it may have had something to do with the fact that I was playing right after setting up the computer and Windows 7, Norton 360, Microsoft Office and other programs were set up to download and run updates in real time and I guess there was just too much of that going on when I first got the new computer up and running. I have not had any problems with Basketball in the last games I have played, so unless the problem reoccurs I consider it gone. If it happens again, I will let you know. It never happened with football or baseball, so maybe the problem with basketball was an abberation. Lets hope so. |
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VeryCurious |
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Thanks Rocket for the explanation. Sounds like some Vista issues carried forward to Windows 7 ... for example ... the need to install the football game to the
root directory rather than the Program Files folder worked better for you. I don't think everyone has this issue, but obviously some folks do. Must be
something particular to your security settings, maybe one of your security programs, or with Windows 7 itself.
A big learning here, and for the problem JimBama had in the football thread, is as security tightens (and that's a big part of what Vista and Windows 7 are about) users have to be more diligent than ever about installing things carefully and keeping extraneous things off the hard drive. Sharing what worked with others helps those having similar problems and also helps those who try to help others. My thanks for doing that. |
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simarc |
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I find it totally hysterical that Microsoft's two subsequent releases offer more problems than old reliable XP, which I have on all of my PC's. I
would even pay to downgrade to XP if I was buying a new one. I'm still trying to figure out what Vista or 7 offer to me that I couldn't get from
XP...other than frustration.
KOD8...Best Expansion
or Twilight Team: Starting 9/1/09 !!!
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VeryCurious |
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Marc - there's only one reason IMO to upgrade to Vista or Win 7 and that's to move to 64-bit. The 4 GB limitation that all 32-bit OSs face will force everyone's hand eventually. There is nothing wrong with either Vista or Windows 7 if one takes time to learn fundamentals around file organization and administrator rights. Microsoft is in a no-win situation. Don't interpret that as me saying they're perfect. The dilemma they face is the masses want simplicity and everything to work first time every time. The hackers prey on simplicity. It's a tough compromise. You see the cost on this forum. Many problems are operator induced due to folks learning the hard way. It costs all of us. Players get frustrated and developers spend too much time helping people with OS problems caused by user inexperience. The best thing the user can do is get educated on what they're doing. IMHO it's the best defense against being hijacked by hackers and being held hostage to OS problems. |
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simarc |
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The problem I found w/friends who have Vista is that they just can't grasp the file management systems. The run as administrator stuff. Invisible files.
Games not being able to write files to subfolders. For the average user this is a daunting task. I still have some guys who have issues loading a weekly
files. Some are high level professionals, just not computer savvy.
KOD8...Best Expansion
or Twilight Team: Starting 9/1/09 !!!
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lwim |
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Marc,
You're right, for some fokes out there, simple system changes or program set up is a daunting task and so an upgrade to Win 7 may be a challenge and unpleasant experience for them. FWIW, here ismy experience: BTW, I never had the opportunity to partake in the excitement of a Vista install, but I just had my 6.5 year old Dell XPS fail and elected to build an all new system and decided to install Windows 7 64 bit Pro instead of sticking with XP. The install went very quickly without any problems, but more importantly moving over my applications went very well. These included APC Baseball 2009, MS Office Pro, Photoshop Lighthouse V1.4, a lot of Canon photo software, a 5 year old scanner and software, Norton Anti-Virus, Quicken, Beyond Compare, Speed Fan and quite a few other programs including some older programs like shred. So far no significant problems. I did install BB 2009 to its own directory on the root drive, but that's the way I had it set up for XP. I did set the Run as Administrator option because I had read several comments about that solving some other users problems. Did have a problem initially with Quicken2008, but setting the Run as Administrator option made the problem go away. Everything else I've used has worked well when I reinstalled it. So overall a good experience for me. BTW, the scanner required a new driver, but it worked fine. So my net out is that all my applications work and work well and I'm happy I did it. Still, its non trivial and requires good planning. |
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rocket |
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Verycurious, I was not clear. I did extract football to th Programs (x86) file on the C: drive. Not to the C root.
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